Posts by Introvert 2

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What triggered your doubts / awakening?

by Tornintwo in

i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

Introvert 2

For me it was a brother that I met 15 years ago who dared me to research lingering doubts I have always harbored, such as the GB's own claims of being the only WAY and their crazy self justifying dates. But I must say that my recent awakening has not diminished my love of God nor his son Jesus. If anything Bible truth is getting brighter for me.

Reading NewBoy's Bethel experiences were great for shock value, but I have since let off researching the negative things and am looking at building myself up on the positives. COC is a must reda also. I'm not quite through it, I go at it gradually as it cam be too much all at once.

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Suggestions for Governing Body 2.0

by FusionTheism in

i realize many people on here are very angry at the watchtower society and/or governing body for various reasons, many of which are likely justified, at least to some extent.

i also can totally understand the cynicism and pessimism i see from certain ones regarding the leaders of the society.. i think one thing that's often forgotten or overlooked, however, is the fact that members of the governing body who've been "in the truth" for 30, 40, 50, 60 years, probably truly believe in this organization.

in my opinion, it's more likely that they believe what they teach instead of being liars who are intentionally deceiving everyone.

Introvert 2

Totally agree Done 4 Good, it's all about job security ' FOR THEMSELVES '

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Suggestions for Governing Body 2.0

by FusionTheism in

i realize many people on here are very angry at the watchtower society and/or governing body for various reasons, many of which are likely justified, at least to some extent.

i also can totally understand the cynicism and pessimism i see from certain ones regarding the leaders of the society.. i think one thing that's often forgotten or overlooked, however, is the fact that members of the governing body who've been "in the truth" for 30, 40, 50, 60 years, probably truly believe in this organization.

in my opinion, it's more likely that they believe what they teach instead of being liars who are intentionally deceiving everyone.

Introvert 2

I looked over the March 15 WT to get ready for next weeks meeting. I put it down is disgust, it's a GB ' We are the Anointed '( insert Queen song here ) stroke propaganda. I just want to go to the hall to learn about Jehovah, his Son and get bible based counsel and education. They make it all about themselves, bunch of glory seeking narcissists. Having come in on my own 15 years ago and being inactive last couple due to health and work reasons I now see a major shift where as we used to get into the odd article on the GB, now it's all about them. I'd be embarrassed to bring a study or 'worldly' friend along to a meeting. They've lost it and are attempting to regain the upper hand it seems. They really are convinced that they are ' IT '

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A Burger and a Hook-up

by John Aquila in

so i went to get a burger just now, and a couple of elders from my former congregation caught me off guard.

they started giving me the we feel so sorry for you, you must be so lonely bit.

i kept telling them im doing great and im not lonely but its like they couldnt hear me talking.

Introvert 2

1 with two children and 1 with one child. All in their 30s.

ROFLMAO........

Trying to turn you on to their "damaged" goods eh......

What happens if you marry a woman with dependents is that they become your responsibility.

Now I can understand if you meet 'The One' it's all fun and games. However the likelihood of that happening is remote, and if ever there's a divorce later on the man will be stuck paying for the whole bunch. Such is the law of the land, no thanks !

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A Burger and a Hook-up

by John Aquila in

so i went to get a burger just now, and a couple of elders from my former congregation caught me off guard.

they started giving me the we feel so sorry for you, you must be so lonely bit.

i kept telling them im doing great and im not lonely but its like they couldnt hear me talking.

Introvert 2

I've been mostly single my whole life on account of circumstances and being a workaholic, that and my personality ( freedom is important to me ) I can say by experience that single by cloice brothers are not looked upon very well. As a side note see if I care

MGTOW

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Br. Lett's Slight of Hand

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

jw
friends

nice try brother lett.

you moved the cups around the table and thought we would not see the slight of hand you were handing us.

you begged for money but you have failed to show yourself capable of handling the monies already provided .

Introvert 2

Good thread all great comments suscribed

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Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy

by cappytan in

how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?

what is the oldest settlement in south america?

how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.

Introvert 2

Pity you don't know me Cofty, you seem a tad judgmental. Do you even lift bro ?

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Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy

by cappytan in

how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?

what is the oldest settlement in south america?

how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.

Introvert 2

Introvert 237 minutes ago

Walt Brown is not in a cult so to speak. He's a retired Phd and this is THEORY I think Floodguy even met with him last year. Anyhow it's a fun read and his book is packed with scientific knowledge other than just the flood. I'll buy the book for myself this summer for vacation reading material.

Wait a second.... How could you, having joined this board a mere 12 days ago, possibly know that floodguy who joined only 8 days ago, meet this walter brown a year ago??? Something smells fishy.

We have known each other for over 15 years. I mentioned this site to him. I credit Floodguy for daring me to research the WT more fully, what I came up with was Ruherford, cases of booze and his concubines

Does that snswer your question ?

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Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy

by cappytan in

how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?

what is the oldest settlement in south america?

how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.

Introvert 2

Walt Brown is not in a cult so to speak. He's a retired Phd and this is THEORY I think Floodguy even met with him last year. Anyhow it's a fun read and his book is packed with scientific knowledge other than just the flood. I'll buy the book for myself this summer for vacation reading material.

MIT Mlitary Graduate :

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/

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Are J.W.'s as Gullible as the Org's Writings Imply?

by The Searcher in

the latest watchtower certainly indicates that the org thinks they are!!

why keep in expectation?

watchtower august 15 par.

Introvert 2

Happened upon the story of an ex Gilead school graduate that had a Twilight Zone moment when they were told by their instructor that Elijah and Elisha were prophesied in scripture as Russell and Rutherford ( true story ) The poor guy got out not long after. It's a shame they pull this stuff but the other students ate it up like pudding as he put it. I've gotten to the point where I think much of the org is all about justifying their own job positions with redundant 'spiritual' make work. ( job security for themselves )